Backstory behind “amin duna – ilya lanta”

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Denshi
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Backstory behind “amin duna – ilya lanta”

Post by Denshi » Tue Jul 03, 2018 18:46

I'm sorry if this is answered elsewhere, but I've wondered whether there is background for the catchphrase “amin duna – ilya lanta”.
According to ngoeminne:
ngoeminne wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:06
I'm also looking for a good catch phrase […]
One could be 'amin duna', followd by 'ilya lanta' in response.
It's elvish and a bit the more cruel, it means, 'I rise', 'all fall'.
He mentions that it's elvish. I'm currently in the progress of getting into BfW lore, but not particularly advanced yet. Is there more to this phrase other than “it sounds good” (which is a perfectly good reason by itself)?
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Re: Backstory behind “amin duna – ilya lanta”

Post by ngoeminne » Wed Jul 04, 2018 08:22

Hey Denshi,

There isn't much story. Arcmage evolved from wtactics, which was loosely based on the BfW lore.
So the link there is very very faint (if it exists at all).

I wanted something dramatic like 'one ring to rule them all' :-)
So I skimmed some Tolkin / Elvish language sites to find something good.

So I came up with 'amin duna' , which translates roughly in 'I rise' (to power),

I also wanted something that had meaning to a close group of people like the
"Valar morghulis - valar dohaeris" ( "all men must die - all men must serve.")
from game of thrones.

So amin duna, is followed by "ilya lanta", spoken in response by those who accept the leadership of the one who speaks 'amin duna'.

Does that makes sense at all?

Kind regards,
Nico
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Re: Backstory behind “amin duna – ilya lanta”

Post by Denshi » Wed Jul 04, 2018 15:53

Hi Nico,
ngoeminne wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 08:22
So I skimmed some Tolkin / Elvish language sites to find something good.
So it's derived from Sindarin/Quenya? This might imply a connection to Middle-earth that doesn't exist. And I don't know how copyright on constructed languages works (Tolkien's languages are apparently copyrighted). Relying on fair use is a dangerous thing to do, because it doesn't exist in many countries (Germany for example :) ).
But it seems a bit late for this discussion now. I just hope this won't cause problems later.
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Re: Backstory behind “amin duna – ilya lanta”

Post by ngoeminne » Sun Jul 15, 2018 16:19

Hey Denshi,

No, it is not derived from Tolkien at all, I used an online elvish word generator, btw the words themslves are present in old Persish too, so I don't think we're in trouble.

Kind regards,
Nivo
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